The Ascension Podcast

Roots To The Fruits · Ep 6 · December 14, 2020 · 38:44

Optimism Through The Hard

with Grayson

Grayson — a young electrician two days into a two-week break, ten-hour days on concrete behind him — walks Tyzen through how he climbed out of depression without changing a single circumstance. A sunrise-commute ritual, singing and beatboxing on the job site, treating every guy beside him as someone worth a real conversation. Then the talk spirals wide open: simulation theory, black holes, AI, the Fibonacci pattern, and the question that won't let go — who's actually in control?

Chapters

Make a game out of it. Life is play, and if you can make it play, then I think you're going to have a lot better time.
Grayson
There's a difference between giving up on a project, or a relationship, or something like that, and giving up on yourself.
Grayson
The tools that we shape end up shaping us.
Tyzen Drake

The sixth Roots To The Fruits catches Grayson two days into a two-week break — a young electrician who’s been standing on concrete in work boots for ten-hour days, a year straight, overtime, crazy hours. Tyzen asks him a simple thing: what does it feel like to have an open canvas for a hundredth of your year? And the answer becomes the whole episode. Grayson didn’t escape the hard by changing the hard. He changed himself inside it. He built a morning ritual around an hour-and-twenty-minute sunrise commute — waking meditation, journaling, whatever it takes to get to the job site ready to go for himself. He leads fifty to a hundred guys through stretch-and-flex and seeds the day with good vibes that spread. He sings and beatboxes at the top of his lungs because the machines are loud enough to hide it, and the guys who sing come out of the woodwork. The thesis lands plain: make a game out of it, life is play.

Underneath the optimism is something more clinical and more tender at once — Grayson naming his own depression honestly, citing Spark on cortisol shortening the dendrites, describing how taking little baby steps toward connection let the dopamine and serotonin start flowing again. He draws the careful line between giving up on a project and giving up on yourself, and refuses to rank his pain against anyone else’s: every emotion is completely valid to the one feeling it. Then the conversation opens its arms wide — simulation theory and the Midnight Gospel, black holes and Hawking radiation, AlphaGo and AI, the Fibonacci spiral in a plant’s leaves, the mycelial network under the soil — all of it circling one question Grayson keeps writing down twice, three times in his journal: who’s in control? They never fully answer it. They land instead on the practice, on lamplighting, on the truth that everything goes up with appreciation. A raw, sprawling, big-hearted early one.

Moments

  • “I feel relaxed, but I feel like I’ve been productive into that relaxation.” — Grayson

  • “To find that little ray of hope, that little ray of sunshine in there — because there’s days in the wintertime you go in and it’s dark, and you come out and it’s dark.” — Grayson

  • “So if you can change your work into something fun, make it a hangout — if you can change that perspective, and you can have that positive energy flow and that dopamine and serotonin, you can actually do stuff like that.” — Grayson

  • “So I connect, connect, connect. Connect as much as you can. If you feel depressed, connect, connect, connect.” — Grayson

  • “Slow your roll, and remember that good things take time.” — Grayson

  • “We are lamplighters, my friend, and that’s what we do — we just give our energy. What we give is what we want to get.” — Tyzen Drake

Recorded 2021 · Roots To The Fruits — the origin series · with Grayson.

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