The Ascension Podcast

Featured · July 25, 2025 · 1h 2m

Success Without Sacrificing Your Soul

with Ryan Sprague

Tyzen featured on The Highly Optimized Podcast w/ Ryan Sprague — episode 143, sparked by a meeting at the High Vibe Festival in Weldon, California. Two podcasters who felt like soul fam on sight riff, unscripted, on entrepreneurship as spiritual growth: letting the heārt come before the mind, building new models of economics where the numbers serve the mission instead of running it, and the through-line Ryan keeps returning to — how to live the hero's journey and create success without sacrificing your soul.

Chapters

If we can tune into what our heart wants and then allow the mind to be our gifted servant — to get the structure of how the heart can get what it wants — then things are in alignment in the new world.
Tyler (Tyzen) Drake
Always take the action that is the highest excitement, and do it with zero insistence on the outcome. That is the spiritual path. Our heart is our art.
Tyler (Tyzen) Drake
Operating through the lens of the heart is so important because the heart is the portal that connects me to we.
Tyler (Tyzen) Drake

A featured conversation: Tyzen sits in the guest seat on Ryan Sprague’s podcast — episode 143 of The Highly Optimized Podcast — after the two crossed paths at the High Vibe Festival out in Weldon, California and, in Ryan’s words, were “having deep soul-expanding combos one minute and dancing our faces off to some of our favorite artists in the next.” Ryan plans his shows as little as possible on purpose — “the littlest bit of structure just to guide us into the mystery of life itself” — so what unfolds is a genuine riff between two people who felt like soul fam on sight. The spine Ryan keeps returning to is the hero’s journey: what someone actually does to become the most courageous, fullest version of themselves, and how to do it without abandoning who you are.

Tyzen traces the arc that earned him that seat — a kid cut from a different cloth, selling hermit crabs in painted shells, then an eighteen-year retail run where “the code of the matrix” was money and three financial resets taught him what leadership and team really mean. The turn is the one he’s living now: closing the chapter that was “strictly born of the mind” to build new models of economics — new-earth architecture where the numbers serve the mission instead of running it. The central image is simple and load-bearing: let the heārt come before the mind, let the mind be its gifted servant, and the structure follows. From there the two of them move through inner chi at the airport, the difference between simplicity and easiness, composting pain into nutrition, and a closing piece of advice that lands like a key — take the action of highest excitement, with zero insistence on the outcome, because our heart is our art.

Moments

  • “I’ve basically always been cut from a different cloth since I was a kid. I’m not a cog that fits into the machine.” — Tyler (Tyzen) Drake

  • “We have a heart and a mind. When the heart and the mind are in coherence, when they’re operating together, we have this super fluid, expansive bandwidth.” — Tyler (Tyzen) Drake

  • “There’s endless rivers that reach the same sea. The only one that’s wrong is the one that tells you there’s only one way to get there.” — Tyler (Tyzen) Drake

  • “When my inner chi is full, I can give to the highest level.” — Tyler (Tyzen) Drake

  • “Slowing down into the simplicity, into the stillness — it actually allows us to connect.” — Tyler (Tyzen) Drake

  • “He’s a poet and he does know it, ladies and gents.” — Ryan Sprague

Tyzen’s guest appearance on The Highly Optimized Podcast with Ryan Sprague · Ep. 143, 2025.

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